Posts by under the radar

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can anyone verify the new "basic pioneer" rumor?

by Chris Tann in

so it's rumored started by one member that there is a new pioneer rank called basic pioneer, announced at annual meeting.

can anyone verify this is true?

everything else presented at the meeting has been verified except this.

under the radar

Basic virgin... hmmm... is that the same as a technical virgin?

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TV.JW.Org - WTF is Wrong With This Guy? - CAPTION THEM

by passwordprotected in

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i've heard about his bombastic, overly patronising, cartoon-ish delivery before, but i'd never actually seen it...until now.

and i should add, this religion bears little to no relation to the one i left 6 years ago.. .

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They can buy all the latest hi tech gadgets and toys and make a first class broadcast studio. But the message is still controlling and manipulative. And the delivery is downright creepy. Lett is NOT a good anchor or presenter. Very amateurish. I'm sure there are many JW's, including women, who would make much better presenters. But maybe it's better that they don't have first class on-screen talent. I wouldn't want the message to even SEEM more palatable and maybe suck in the unsuspecting.

This new venture is disturbing on so many levels.

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Vermont Sisters Sue Jehovah's Witnesses For Child Sex Abuse

by Watchtower-Free in

http://digital.vpr.net/post/vermont-sisters-sue-jehovahs-witnesses-child-sex-abuse.

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under the radar

For what it's worth, I found that BOE letter Zalkin was talking about. It's dated March 14, 1997. It actually only required the congregations to forward detailed information on any "known" child molesters who either were serving or had served in any official capacity in that congregation. Those who had only been accused or who had not served in any appointed capacity did not have to be reported. Still, it could prove useful in making the Society produce whatever documentation they have on a particular individual.

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Vermont Sisters Sue Jehovah's Witnesses For Child Sex Abuse

by Watchtower-Free in

http://digital.vpr.net/post/vermont-sisters-sue-jehovahs-witnesses-child-sex-abuse.

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under the radar

Wouldn't it interesting if wikileaks or anonymous hacked into the Society's records about child abuse accusations and made them public? I wonder if those records are even on their computer system. If they were smart, they would be in hard-copy (paper) form only. Did Barbara Anderson ever say whether those records were on computer or not when she was there?

Does anyone have a copy or know the exact date of the BOE letter Zalkin was talking about? It would be interesting to read exactly what was said. If anyone had one of the originals it could be the smoking gun that forces the Society to open its files.

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I lost my family today.

by awakenyr2004 in

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friends

so far my oldest niece and oldest sister cut me off.

i'm waiting for the goodbye texts from my other siblings.

my parents asured me they would never cut me off.

under the radar

I hope you don't really consider yourself "living in sin." If you and your partner are committed to each other, you meet all the "Biblical" requirements to be considered married. Registering your marriage with the government is a man-made requirement, not a Biblical one. And don't let anyone tell you that it is a scriptural requirement under the catch-all "Give Caesar's things to Caesar." "Caesar" (at least in most civilized countries) does NOT require people to be married to each other to live together as a married couple does or even to have children together. Again, it's a mad-made rule. I'm not saying there aren't any advantages to an "official" marriage, because there certainly are. But not being in one does not equate to "living in sin."

Please submit 2¢ for this valuable "ruling."

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2014 AGM announcement rumour

by yadda yadda 2 in

from barbara anderson, former watchtower headquarters researcher and writer, on another recent thread:.

it is expected that at the 2014 annual meeting, usually held the first saturday in october, will serve watchtower leaders well to cover-up all the 100-years of prophetic nonsense.

rumor has it they are going to celebrate their 100-years of announcing the kingdom in an adroit way by featuring a move of "great" significance to do with the expansion of the governing body to an "apostolic" 12 or some other fantasy idea.. .

under the radar

I'm with Billy. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the sheeple were encouraged to follow the example of the congregations and donate all their "excess" assets to the Society to "advance Kingdom interests." You know, just keep a few months worth of normal expenses (if that much) and donate the rest. "Surely, Jehovah will bless your putting the Kingdom first."

The organization is becoming more and more communist-oriented all the time. They're already spouting verses about the early Christians not wanting some to have too much and others too little. And others about how some early Christians lived in communities and held all things in common with no personal possessions. Can you see where this is headed? It's frightening.

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Jim Trafacant

by Jeannette in

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jim trafacant was involved in a very serious farm accident and is in a medically-induced coma.

has anyone heard how his is doing this morning?.

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under the radar

Ok, I'll play. Who is Jim Trafacant?

57

Where Are You on The Witno Scale?

by tresdecu in

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friends

1 - still think it's the truth ...came to this site cause danger is your middle name.. 2 - concerned, smoething's amiss but still believe.

3 - 98% sure it's bs, but still go for / with family.

4 - anger / denial, inactive with minimal attendance (ie memorial, spec talk etc).

under the radar

Definitely a 6! Looks like I'm in good company, too.

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Watchtower/Telecom Ownership Agreement!

by Atlantis in

watchtower-qcstelecom ownership agreement.. .

re: petition to transfer ownership of qcstelecom, inc., to watchtower bible and tract society.

http://documents.dps.ny.gov/public/common/viewdoc.aspx?docrefid=%7b57614a3f-7101-408a-8b25-b3499530db5a%7d.

under the radar

I suspect there may be more to this story. Latchman may be only a "beard" who was used by the Society to set up the company without anyone knowing who was really behind it. I don't know what the advantage in that may be, but I do know that local congregations (and businesses) often use individuals to purchase property in their own names so the sellers won't know who is really buying it and possibly jack up the price. That's not dishonest in itself. If you have some acreage to sell and Joe Blow wanted it, you might sell at one price. But if you knew Walmart wanted it, you'd probably charge a whole lot more. Same thing. As long as there are no lies or misrepresentations involved, it's fair game. You might even call it good strategy.

If this is the case here and the Society "hid" behind Latchman to set the company up, their "buying" him out is just the end game to the whole scheme. I don't know if this is actually what happened, and I don't know why they would want to do it that way, but it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility.

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Hi all sharing my book

by Sunnyflowernz in

hello friends,.

i am an ex jw been out of the organisation since 2000, just written my memoirs which contains the story of my life in the organisation and the circumstances surrrounding my exit, also contains the story of sexual abuse in the org.

so if anyone is interested they can look at my website.

under the radar

Hello Sunnyflowernz! Congratulations on being a published author. Thanks for sharing your story.

I certainly don't want to dampen your justifiable joy and excitement over your new book, but may I make a couple of suggestions? You may wish to consult an editor/proofreader for your next book or perhaps a revised version of this one. A little more attention to grammar, spelling, and punctuation would make it even more readable. Also, it's easy to get lost in long paragraphs.

Again, congratulations on your book. You're very brave to put all that out there and I admire you for it.